Sequel to “Cruise Doubledate With My Sister”

I recently got a message asking if I was working on an update to “Cruise”. I replied:

I recently thought about a sequel to this story, but nothing like that. It’s a few days before Thomas and Rebecca’s wedding. Caitlin has taken charge of the final wedding preparations. She picks up Rebecca’s family from the airport and drives them to the hotel. It’s her parents, her older brother and her younger sister. Just before they get to the hotel, Caitlin stops the car and reads her parents the riot act – “Yes, you’re unhappy about Rebecca’s decisions of the last couple of years, but you are not going to act unhappy at this wedding. You’re going to act like you’re having a great time. You are not going to spoil this wedding. For two days, accept that it’s not about you. And if you don’t, so help me you’re walking back to the airport.”

The older brother is floored. He’s never seen anyone talk to his parents like that. He becomes Caitlin’s gofer up until the wedding. He’s engaged, and both he and his fiance are waiting for their wedding night to have sex. When the dancing starts, Rebecca’s family starts to leave. Caitlin goes up to the older brother and says, “You are going to stay here and dance with me, and when the reception is over you’re going to help me wrap everything up. Then after that, you’re going to my hotel room and we’re going to fuck our brains out.” He has the best night of his life.

The person replied, “That’s a good idea”. I replied back:

Actually, it’s a terrible idea. No one who liked the first story is going to like it. There isn’t any incest in it.

I started writing a sequel to my very first story, didn’t like how people responded to the first chapter (it was going to be four chapters), and I’ve sworn off sequels ever since.

My style isn’t conducive to sequels. In my endings, the couple is madly in love and walking off happily towards the sunset. Almost everything interesting is resolved. Some people want to see how the couple lives happily together, but that’d be boring to read as there’s no dramatic tension.

With “Cruise”, I’ve gotten a lot of requests to write a new version of it where Thomas winds up with Caitlin. Meh. I like the ending as it is because I think the final sex scene is one of my hottest.

Threesomes in incest stories

The way threesomes are typically handled is that after the main male character (MMC) fucks woman #1 and woman #2, the two women both suddenly realize that they are bisexual. Even better, they are sexually attracted to each other. Woman #1 has no problems with the MMC fucking woman #2. And woman #3. And woman #4. Etc. Typically, the MMC’s large cock is effectively a mind-control device which turns women into eager sex slaves.

While those type of stories are fun fantasies, they are so unrealistic that I’m not comfortable writing them. But I like the idea of a guy having a threesome with two women! I find that incredibly hot. So I’ve tried different ways of making it work.

Thinking over the stories I’ve written and the stories I’ve plotted out, I’ve always had the woman who the MMC is currently with making the decision to initiate the threesome. To me, a guy telling his girlfriend that he wants a threesome is very damaging to the relationship. So coming up with a threesome story for me means coming up with a reason while someone in a sexual relationship would want to her guy to have sex with another woman.

Thinking meta about this, one of the first decisions is how permanent is the threesome going to be. Is it going to be a one-time thing? Is it going to be an occasional thing that the MMC’s SO controls? Or is going to be a permanent thing? I’ve kind of done all three. In my first story with a threesome, “Cruise Doubledate With My Sister”, the MMC’s girlfriend initiates the threesome with the MMC’s sister with the intention that it is a one-time thing. In my second story with a threesome, “My Day as a Pool Boy”, I viewed it as it to be an occasional thing during a summer relationship, though I didn’t explicitly say that. Then in my third threesome story, “A Week at the Lake with My Sister”, it’s a permanent relationship.

Interesting to me, only one of those threesome stories involve someone who is bisexual. To me, the classic fantasy menage a trois where the women are both bisexual would be the most difficult to make work. That would require three people being relatively equally in love with the other two. One serious fight and the whole thing falls apart. Also, bisexual women aren’t that common, and to find two bisexual women who are both attracted to the other woman and the MMC seems really, really unlikely.

I’m enjoying plotting out a couple of stories that involve MFF threesomes, which is what going me thinking about this post.

I/T writing is my hobby

I got this comment the other day on my 12/20 writing status post:

I haven’t been making much progress on the “My Crocheting Little Sister” story. But I have written a couple of long outlines …
Everyday, sit down for an hour and write 500 words to your story. Sometimes its easier to write a little than it is to write a lot.

That’s great advice…if I was serious about my writing. My understanding is that if you’re trying to build an audience, you need to constantly provide new content. “My Cookie-Baking Sister” contains my understanding of what it is like to be a writer – the need to constantly write new content and how poorly it pays.

I’m not serious about my writing. It’s a hobby; something I do because I enjoy it. The two things I enjoy the most is thinking up the stories and the comments I receive when I publish them. Some parts of the stories are easy to write; vanilla sex scenes are the hardest for me to write. And that’s where I’m stuck.

As writing is a hobby, it competes with many other things I do with my free time. If some new game captures my interest, I’m going to spend my free time on it and not write. That’s what makes me the happiest with my limited free time.

I haven’t written much about how I feel about the response to “A Week at the Lake with My Sister”. It was an experience that didn’t motivate me to spend a lot of time writing. I don’t think many commenters realize that leaving less-than-positive comments effects the amount of content that gets generated.

Dear reader, it’s not all about you

I recently got the following comment on “My Cookie-Baking Sister”:

Good lord does this story need editing. Not just for the mistakes(though there were plenty of them, that’s for sure), but for content as well. Half of this could be cut and none of the plot would be lost. I don’t know why we needed page after page covering all the mundane details of his dad’s writing career. Not to mention the entire subplot with his roommate could have been dropped.

I also didn’t get the phone call between Justin and Kate on page four or five. He voices some very legitimate complaints about how he’s being treated by his parents, she completely dismisses them, and suddenly he feels better. Huh? He’s just gets over it because she points out that he can read a map and keep his mouth shut? Wow, okay.

Beyond that, there just wasn’t much to set this story apart from any other brother/sister romance.

“My Cookie-Baking Sister” is doing very well, with a 4.76 rating and 180K views. At the same time, I know that not everyone is going to like it. This commenter didn’t. Oh well.

The thing about this comment is that the certainty with which the commenter describes how the story should have been completely different. Lots and lots of people liked it the way it is. It’s not all about you, my friend.

Perhaps more importantly, this is the story I wanted to tell. I wanted to tell about the mundane details of the dad’s writing career. I wanted to write about the subplot of the roommate. I wanted to write a story where there’s a relationship between the brother and sister before they decide to start fucking. I only wrote the story because of the elements in it I enjoyed describing.

So to this commenter – get over yourself. You didn’t pay me to write that story. You didn’t give me an advance to write a particular type of story and I produced something that didn’t meet that agreement. I wrote something that I enjoyed writing and that I’d hope other people would enjoy reading. If you can’t accept that stories I write for free aren’t going to meet your exacting standards, then don’t read my stories anymore.

An interesting comment

I got this in a Private Message:

Loved Cruise Double Date except for the little bit about the gambling. I hate gambling too but the way Thomas acted when Jacob suggested black jack was quite a turn off. It made him  seem whiny and rude or antisocial. It would have made sense for him to act that way if he had admitted to himself that he was maybe feeling insecure or jealous about the ex being there and was acting out but instead the passage came off as Thomas just hating an activity, getting bored and basically telling the group your hobby is stupid I don’t like it so lets do what I like instead.

However your writing was great and your sex scenes were very hot so I was glad I continued reading.

To me, this comes down to how explicit an author should make things. As I wrote the scene, I thought it was obvious that the most upsetting thing to Thomas about the gambling was that Rebecca was supporting Jacob over him. Should I have explicitly said that, or should I have the reader read between the lines? I don’t think there’s a right answer as some readers will won’t things spelled out and others prefer reading between the lines. I’ve been taken to task by some authors for spelling things out too much for my readers.